Caudalie co-founder Mathilde Thomas at the Caudalie Spa in Hong Kong (Photo: courtesy of Caudalie)
Cover Caudalie co-founder Mathilde Thomas at the Caudalie Spa in Hong Kong (Photo: courtesy of Caudalie)

In our 10 Minutes With … Mathilde Thomas, the co-founder of Caudalie shares her skincare tips that includes drinking wine—and how the brand grew out of a Bordeaux vineyard

Mathilde Thomas grew up surrounded by the beauty of the Alps—a raw and wild environment that she learned to admire and protect from a young age. She brought this same respect for nature to the skincare game, focusing only on natural products—something that was rather rare in the 1990s. 

In 1995, she and her husband, Bertrand Thomas, founded their skincare brand Caudalie in Bordeaux, in the heart of her parents’ vineyard. Their secret weapon was using grape seeds, which is said to be one of the most powerful natural antioxidants in the world. 

Almost three decades later, Caudalie is widely considered as a pioneer of clean beauty and sustainability. For the brand’s 10-year anniversary in Hong Kong, Mathilde Thomas flew in to the city and sat down with Tatler to share her skincare tips, the brand’s most underrated product and why she thinks the Asian market is unique.

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Caudalie has been an advocate for clean beauty long before the concept became mainstream. What was the skincare industry like when Caudalie was founded? 
Everything was loaded with animal ingredients, petrochemicals, paraben, phenoxyethanol and more. Everything was also about collagen. But it was collagen from animals, so the molecule was too big and couldn’t penetrate the skin—meaning it was completely useless. The mad cow disease in the ’90s changed everything [because it spread from cows to humans], and people started to realise it was important to be cautious about what they [put in their bodies]. 

Why was it important that natural ingredients should be at the heart of your brand right from the start?
It was in my blood. I was born and raised in the Alps. My grandfather would teach me [to identify] the plants in the mountains and my grandmother would show me how to cook the berries that we had harvested. My parents—who were two mountain and nature lovers—bought this organic vineyard called Château Smith Haut Lafitte. 

So, clearly, there was no way I would do something that was not vegan and clean. And as we developed [the brand], we realised that we were going in the right direction. We found the right partners, the right formulas … the French press was extremely enthusiastic from the very beginning, but our competition was obviously not so pleased.

For anyone who isn’t familiar, what is the history behind your iconic product, Beauty Elixir, and why do you think it’s still one of your best selling products today?
It’s actually a funny story: it’s the recipe Queen Isabella of Hungary used for herself back in the 17th century. It was an elixir made with rosemary, mint, orange blossom, rose and benzoin resin. Legend has it that she looked so young at 72 that the King of Poland, who was 30 years younger to her, fell in love with her.

We decided to recreate this recipe by adding grapes. To this day, it’s a product that’s used by celebrities around the world. We spotted Beauty Elixir in a tutorial by Beyoncé’s make-up artist.

What factors did you consider while expanding to Asia? What’s your bestselling item here?
Our most popular products in Asia and the West are actually quite different, mostly because of the difference in skin concerns, complexions and weather conditions. For example, a product that sells well in Europe and the US like Premier Cru The Rich Cream, but it doesn’t sell that well in Asia because it’s so thick. Instead, we pushed for our lighter Vinoperfect Dark Spot serum. It’s one of our bestsellers in Asia. 

What are the next steps the skincare industry should take for a more sustainable future? 
There’s so much to do. The first step is to develop cleaner formulas: remove phenoxyethanol (because it’s a potential hormonal disruptor), remove silicone (because it clogs your pores), remove all mineral oil derived from petrochemicals (because it’s like putting a plastic bag on your skin), and more. 

The second step is to rethink packaging. Replace plastic bottles with glass, aluminium and try to make things recyclable or refillable. In every one of our boutiques, you’ll find specific trash cans for packages that are difficult to recycle, and we work with local partners to make sure it ends up recycled. I think we’ve been recycling over 3,000 kilos of different materials. 

Finally, try to give back [to the environment]. At Caudalie, every year since 2012, we have given back 1 per cent of our sales to plant trees. In the past 11 years, we have planted over 11 million trees. 

What have been your most memorable moments with the brand?
There are so many: when we met Professor Joseph Vercauteren because that’s what started Caudalie, when we opened our first spa, when we introduced the resveratrol molecule [a type of natural phenol] in the market, when we met David Sinclair from Harvard University and started a 10-year collaboration, when I wrote my book The French Beauty Solution (2015), when we opened our first boutique in Hong Kong.

What do you think is your most underrated product?
Without hesitation it’s Vinoclean, our make-up removing cleansing oil. It’s 100 per cent natural with almond oil and castor oil. It cleans gently and makes your lashes grow at the same time. 

What kind of skincare products or trends do you predict will define 2024?
I think products will just get stronger and more effective. Brands have really been boosting their percentage of Ph, Retinol etc. We’ll just have to be careful about how to use them and if the new wave of derma-influencers will show how to use them properly. It’s been fantastic for us to be highlighted by so many of them as products that actually work, but I’ve also seen 12-year-olds using retinol. So, 2024 should be a year where products are stronger, but also hopefully better used. 

Favourite tip for a nice skin?
Drink lots of water, sleep for eight hours, be happy and eat properly. And also, drink a glass of wine! 

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